After reading these articles, I began to think about my teaching. I have a large population of ESL students and several African American students. I know that my students do not speak properly; many of my Hmong students leave the “s” off the end of a word. It is my job to try and help them. I know that my students know the difference between the way the talk to their friends and the way they talk to me, I can tell when they write. Almost all of my students write with correct grammar even though they do not speak that way. During a class discussion, I often find myself correcting students out of habit. It drives me crazy when someone uses incorrect grammar. Sometimes when I hold conversations with my students one-on-one, I do not always correct them (or at least not too much). I know that is what they hear at home, it is who they are. I think that they should attempt to speak correctly during class, but I know at recess they talk completely different. I do not think just because my students do not use the Standard English that they are not smart. What they say actually surprises me sometimes. I was brought up speaking correctly; my parents always corrected my errors. I will probably do the same with my children.
I have such a diverse class that everyone has a different accent, I have students from all over the country and from many other countries. Their accents will never bother me and I do not try to correct how they say particular words unless they just completely get it wrong. I believe that grammar is another story; we can all speak with correct grammar.
I found myself feeling sorry for Maya, but understanding what she is coming from. It must be tough to not fit it and to not feel like you had friends at school. Maya learned to code switch pretty quickly at her new school. I also understand her mother’s concerns, she had never heard her daughter speak this way yet she seemed happy now. Maya knew the difference; she knew when to use each “language.”
Dana Eudy
Comments (4)
I do the same thing! I find myself constantly correcting how students speak. It drives me crazy as well...especially if I know I have taught a lesson on a specific gramatical rule. I like how you said that when you're one-on-one with a student that you don't always correct their mistakes. I think that this helps you become a more approachable teacher to the students. I also liked that you made the distinction between dialect and grammar. I think there is a huge difference here. I, as well, will never correct a student's dialect, but would definitely correct their grammar.
Posted by Erica Spicer | June 9, 2009 11:34 AM
Posted on June 9, 2009 11:34
At the school I teach we have a high population of ELL students. I cannot imagine what it would be like trying to learn a new language and have someone correct everything I said incorrectly. Some of those students would never say anything if this was the case. I think this is a clear reason why we have to be careful at what point we correct and how often. I think a great way to model correct grammar is to say back what the child says to the teacher, but using correct English. This way, the child doesn't realize he or she is being corrected, and the child hears it spoken correctly. Great point about dialect and grammar.
Posted by Heather Houston | June 9, 2009 6:53 PM
Posted on June 9, 2009 18:53
I have a mixed group of ESL stduents and African American. When working with my students on writing, I notice a lot of my students write how they speak, without an ending to a word (-ed or -s) or wrong diagraphs. In the beginning of first grade, I do not correct these mistakes, instead I might do what Heather mentioned and say back to them what they said, but the correct way, or hope that they will develop a better sense of langauage as they learn to read. At about half way though the year, if a child has not picked up on these concepts though hearing correct grammer and seeing/memorizing words in their reading, I will start to correct them in their writing. I will ask them which sounds better and read their sentence, and then read the sentence the way it should be written. The majority of the time they catch their own mistakes and fix them without me saying anymore. I do not think this belittles the child in any sense, because they are eager to learn and feel confident that they were able to pick the correct way to word their expression. With that being said, I also think the way you build a relationship with your students can assist a teacher in making correction without a child losing self-esteem because of it.
Posted by Barbara Terauds | June 9, 2009 9:18 PM
Posted on June 9, 2009 21:18
I have a similar population at my school that Dana has. There are many cultures represented in my school, mostly Hmong and Hispanic. Since I have taught kindergarten for many years, I see the children as they enter school for the first time. They only have one language, and it is their native tongue. Many of them know little or no English at all when they walk through my door, and often their parents do not speak English either. I do not speak any other language, so communicating with them at all is difficult. I can't even imagine how scary it must be for the children who are nervous about coming to school anyway for the first time to get here and not be able to talk to anybody!! I have been in numerous workshops about how ESL children learn best, and the common theme seems to be that they learn best by being immersed in the language rather than being taught in isolation. I personally think that ESL children do need instruction in isolation, as well as immersion in the language in the regular classroom. I think both aspects are important to their acquisition of English. For me, it's more of an issue that I am trying to model the language rather than correcting their mistakes. Some are afraid to speak in class, probably because they are nervous about making mistakes or perhaps just simply that they don't know how to say what they want to say.
Like it or not, we live in a society that does place a high importance on being able to speak correct English. It may not be fair, like many other things but it is the way things are. I think in our culture we have come to place an association between intelligence and oratorical ability, as the article stated. As teachers, I think we have to acknowledge this fact whether we agree with it or not, and help our children understand that being able to speak "proper English" is a tool that will help them get where they want to go in life. If we can find a way to help our kids know how to code switch and that we respect their home language, and help them learn to speak acceptable English at the same time, then I think we will have achieved a lofty goal.
Lorie Hedrick
Posted by Lorie Hedrick | June 12, 2009 4:59 PM
Posted on June 12, 2009 16:59